{"id":9362,"date":"2004-10-07T18:59:00","date_gmt":"2004-10-07T18:59:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/?p=9362"},"modified":"2024-12-29T19:32:24","modified_gmt":"2024-12-29T19:32:24","slug":"ticket-chic-ou-ticket-choc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/?p=9362","title":{"rendered":"Ticket chic ou Ticket choc ?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>L&#8217;information concerne les concerts de Michael Jackson en 2001 au Madison Square Garden de New York. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dana Gross avait achet\u00e9 , il y a 3 ans, six billets pour un de ces 2 concerts , au prix de 98,50 $ chacun. Avec peut \u2013\u00eatre de nombreux autres spectateurs , Dana et ses amis ont connu une certaine m\u00e9saventure : Ils pouvaient entendre le concert mais par contre ils ne le voyaient pas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Michael_Jackson_Ticketmaster_Madison_Square_Garden_2001_MJLegend_Forum.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"807\" height=\"589\" src=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Michael_Jackson_Ticketmaster_Madison_Square_Garden_2001_MJLegend_Forum.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9363\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Michael_Jackson_Ticketmaster_Madison_Square_Garden_2001_MJLegend_Forum.jpg 807w, https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Michael_Jackson_Ticketmaster_Madison_Square_Garden_2001_MJLegend_Forum-300x219.jpg 300w, https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Michael_Jackson_Ticketmaster_Madison_Square_Garden_2001_MJLegend_Forum-768x561.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 807px) 100vw, 807px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><br><\/strong>Madame Gross et son groupe d\u2019amis ont \u00e9t\u00e9 install\u00e9s mais ils \u00e9taient cach\u00e9s par de grands panneaux qui servaient apparemment de d\u00e9cor \u00e0 la sc\u00e8ne pour le show de Michael.<br>D\u2019apr\u00e8s Peter M. Algunick , avocat de Manhattan , qui repr\u00e9sente Mme Gross , il leur \u00e9tait impossible de voir la sc\u00e8ne. Le seul moyen pour elle et ses amis de voir le concert aurait \u00e9t\u00e9 de le regarder \u00e0 la t\u00e9l\u00e9vision !<br><br>Son avocat indique que sa cliente \u00ab a \u00e9crit une lettre \u00e0 TicketMaster pour les informer qu\u2019avec les tickets qu\u2019ils lui avaient vendus , elle avait \u00e9t\u00e9 install\u00e9e derri\u00e8re un mur ! . Tickemaster a r\u00e9pondu \u00e0 son courrier en disant en substance \u00ab pas de chance ! \u00bb. \u00bb<br><br>Mais la chance a finalement tourn\u00e9 en faveur de Mme Gross lorsque la Cour Supr\u00eame de Justice de Manhattan a accept\u00e9 que sa plainte trouve des suites judiciaires.<br><br>Madame Gross poursuit en justice TicketMaster , Madison Square Garden et les 2 promoteurs du spectacle : Entertainement Inc. et World Events.<br><br>Selon ses d\u00e9clarations , ses amis et elles se sont rendus au concert du 10 septembre et ils se sont finalement rendus compte qu\u2019ils ne verraient pas Michael Jackson et les autres artistes du spectacle ( notamment Britney Spears , Ray Charles et Liza Minelli) .<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a 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href=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_05.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"949\" height=\"633\" data-id=\"9365\" src=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_05.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9365\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_05.jpg 949w, https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_05-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_05-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_05-675x450.jpg 675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 949px) 100vw, 949px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_06.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"968\" height=\"652\" data-id=\"9364\" src=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_06.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9364\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_06.jpg 968w, https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_06-300x202.jpg 300w, https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_06-768x517.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 968px) 100vw, 968px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_07.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"959\" height=\"669\" data-id=\"9368\" src=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_07.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9368\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_07.png 959w, https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_07-300x209.png 300w, https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Madison_Square_Garden_Michael_Jackson_2001_07-768x536.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 959px) 100vw, 959px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:35px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Dans sa plainte elle note qu\u2019il y a donc eut \u00ab de nombreux concerts qui se sont tenus au Madison Square Garden et dont une partie des spectateurs n\u2019ont pas vu le spectacle ou qui ont eu la vue de la sc\u00e8ne partiellement obstru\u00e9e par cet \u00e9l\u00e9ment de d\u00e9cor de la sc\u00e8ne \u00bb.<br><br>Selon l\u2019avocat Mr Algunick , du fait de l\u2019existence d\u2019un tel dysfonctionnement , il est possible de porter 4 chefs d\u2019accusation \u00e0 l\u2019encontre de TicketMaster : proc\u00e9dure de gestion trompeuse , non respect de contrat , fraude et enrichissement injustifi\u00e9.<br><br>La d\u00e9fense a rejet\u00e9 3 des 4 accusations. Le juge Cahn a rejet\u00e9 l\u2019accusation de fraude et accept\u00e9 les 3 autres accusations.<br>En fait le juge a retenu plusieurs motions de l\u2019accusation parmi lesquelles : \u00ab il y aurait eu ,au cours des 2 concerts, pr\u00e8s de 7 840 spectateurs qui ont pu \u00eatre concern\u00e9s par cette g\u00eane \u00bb et que \u00ab de ce fait , il serait possible de consid\u00e9rer qu\u2019il y a un si grand nombre de personnes g\u00ean\u00e9es que le spectacle vendu n\u2019\u00e9tait pas regardable \u00bb.<br><br>Le juge a finalement retenu que les acheteurs de ces tickets \u00ab n\u2019avaient pas \u00e9t\u00e9 inform\u00e9s qu\u2019ils pouvaient \u00eatre g\u00ean\u00e9s dans leur vision du spectacle propos\u00e9 \u00bb.<br><br>Les avocats de Madison Square Garden et TicketMaster , repr\u00e9sent\u00e9s par Sidley Austin Brown &amp; Wood ont refus\u00e9 de commenter la d\u00e9cision.<br><br>Ces derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es , les contestations devant un tribunal par des spectateurs m\u00e9contents est devenu une poule aux oeufs d&#8217;or. Des proc\u00e8s ont \u00e9t\u00e9 gagn\u00e9s par exemple , contre le groupe de rock Creed , dont le chanteur \u00e9t\u00e9 tellement saoul qu\u2019il fut incapable de chanter sur sc\u00e8ne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Sources : nylawyer.com \/ MJLegend Forum<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>07 Oct 2004 by BIGBROTHER<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/MJLegend_Forum_banniere.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"841\" height=\"134\" src=\"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/MJLegend_Forum_banniere.gif\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5756\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>L&#8217;information concerne les concerts de Michael Jackson en 2001 au Madison Square Garden de New<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":9371,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[26],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9362","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9362"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=9362"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9362\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9373,"href":"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9362\/revisions\/9373"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/9371"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=9362"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=9362"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelzine.com\/Wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=9362"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}